Dear Dr.Eirc E. Monson,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for the reply. I'll definitely look for the book.</div><div>I have one doubt though, from the result of paraview it seems like paraview does not takes interior polygons into account, such that only outer lines/polygons are rendered. I double checked to see if there are missing points but they are still there, just not being rendered in paraview. Since I'm taking paraview as the standard and the official .vtk viewer, I think I must follow this principle..</div>
<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Jeonggyu Lee<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/3/15 Eric E. Monson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emonson@cs.duke.edu">emonson@cs.duke.edu</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">There are two books about VTK:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.vtk.org/VTK/help/book.html" target="_blank">http://www.vtk.org/VTK/help/book.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>This first one listed there talks about the principles behind the data structures. On page 144, it talks about vtkStructuredGrid. You can also look at the class documentation:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.vtk.org/doc/nightly/html/classvtkStructuredGrid.html" target="_blank">http://www.vtk.org/doc/nightly/html/classvtkStructuredGrid.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Since the topology is that of a regular grid, if you give the point coordinates in the correct order, thus specifying the "geometry", the connectivity is implied and you don't have to worry about which way you travel around faces, etc.</div>
<div><br></div><div>All of the people on this list are also busy trying to do their own work, so please don't assume that just because you don't get a satisfactory reply right away that the information isn't out there. You need to be patient sometimes.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Eric</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div>On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:46 PM, 이정규 wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Hi all,<div>
<br></div><div>First of all, I think this e-mail thread should be corrected to "HOW OT READ STRUCTURED_GRID?" and I apologize for this.</div><div>Second, I'm surprised that I couldn't find any further information regarding this. I've been thinking of reverse-engineering it from the source code but anyhow I've figured it out.</div>
<div>DIMENSIONS gives us information how it should be indexed.</div><div>It have to be something like</div><div><b>{1,0,20,21},{2,1,21,22}..............</b></div><div>if we assume it has counter-clockwise orientation and x dimension is 20. And indeed, each face shares two vertices(in the above example, 1 and 21). If we were to triangulate them it won't be that hard because they are just rectangles. If you are someone at Kitware, would you please, please somehow make this kind of information accessible to people? Or if this have been stated some book, would you please tell me which book it is? Or maybe I'm doing unsolicited thing that Kitware merely suggest to use <b>vtkStructuredGridReader</b> but I have my reason for getting to details of every single piece.. Maybe I should consider posting this to VTK wiki..</div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/3/15 이정규 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glazex2@naver.com" target="_blank">glazex2@naver.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Sorry I've found that there's one more line with directive "DIMENSIONS"<div><br></div><div><div># vtk DataFile Version 3.0</div><div>vtk output</div><div>ASCII</div><div>DATASET STRUCTURED_GRID</div><div>
DIMENSIONS 20 30 40</div><div>POINTS 24000 float</div><div><br></div><div>.............</div><div><br></div><div>and obviously, 20*30*40 == 24,000. Given this, how should I arrange those points to get the exact same result as paraview?</div>
<div><br></div><div>If I have to do it manually, maybe I should start working with smaller model, but is there really no documentation on this?????(to Kitware : if it's NDA please let me know)</div><div><div></div><div>
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM, 이정규 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glazex2@naver.com" target="_blank">glazex2@naver.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse">Hi David,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your reply and the suggestion, however the file I'm working on is so-called a legacy VTK file that does not have the newer XML structure. But from the wiki page that you suggested, I found more information.</div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19px"><h2 style="color:black;background-color:initial;font-weight:normal;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.6em;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.17em;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(170, 170, 170);font-size:19px">
<span>Structured Grid</span></h2><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">Regular topology and irregular geometry. That is, every point has a left, right, up, down, front, back neighbor. The points, however, do not lie on a grid! You must explicitly indicate the coordinates of each point.</div>
<div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">This data structure is common in finite difference analysis.</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">
<br></div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">This information gives me food for thought, but is not clear enough that which goes which.</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">
For example, if I have</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">x1,y2,z3,x2,y2,z3,x3,y3,z3,x4,y4,z4,x5,y5,z5,x6,y6,z6,x7,y7,z7,x8,y8,z8</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">
I guess it would be something like</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">(x1,y1,z1),(x2,y2,z2),(x3,y3,z3),(x4,y4,z4)</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">
for the first face.. but what about the next face?? If it have to share some points(maybe 2, if it have to) with the first face, what would it be like?</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">
Also, if it indeed share some points with its neighboring grids, how many grid should I expect from n points?</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">
<br></div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">Truly yours,</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">
--</div><div style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0.5em;margin-left:0px;line-height:1.5em">Jeonggyu Lee</div></span></div></span><br></div></div><div><div></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:22 AM, David Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daviddoria%2Bvtk@gmail.com" target="_blank">daviddoria+vtk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:19 AM, 이정규 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glazex2@naver.com" target="_blank">glazex2@naver.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I am trying to parse a .VTK file with UNSTRUCTURED_GRID but this just have data of points.</div><div>I've looked for more information for this but all I found is</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
The Visualization Toolkit supports five different dataset formats: structured points, structured grid, rectilinear</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
grid, unstructured grid, and polygonal data. Data with implicit topology (structured data such as vtkImageData and</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
vtkStructuredGrid) are ordered with x increasing fastest, then y, then z. These formats are as follows.</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>So I guess somehow I have to infer the topology from these points. I've tried Paraview and it renders it as a set of rectangles(I've tired to render surface with wireframes and so on)..</div>
<div>I see some hint there that points are ordered with x-ascending order, but how the index is consists up is not mentioned in any documents.....</div><div>Anybody done this before? or have more information for this?</div>
<div><br></div><div>PS : If you are someone at Kitware, would you please, please direct me to the right information?????</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>--</div><div>Jeonggyu Lee</div><div></div></font></blockquote>
</div><br></div></div><div>Do you have an existing .vtk file that you need to read? If not, I would suggest using the XML .vtu format - then you can use:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK/Examples/IO/ReadUnstructuredGrid" target="_blank">http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK/Examples/IO/ReadUnstructuredGrid</a></div>
<div><br clear="all">Thanks,<br><font color="#888888"><br>David</font></div>
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